upside down ball joints
I have seen threads with loose references to upside down ball joints. What is involved with this modification? Is it a good way to lower the center of gravity in the front without changing suspension geometry? What are the negatives?
Micke,
Is that a custom upper control arm? Is it to aide in fitment of the coilover? It looks to me like the lower balljoint is upside down, while the upper one is in normal position. Correct?
I was thinking of flipping both upper and lower ball joints to maintain the same geometry, but if this geometry is better...
Very interesting stuff.
Pancho,
I will try to post a photo of the stock arrangement for comparison. I have the front wheels off of my parts car.
Is that a custom upper control arm? Is it to aide in fitment of the coilover? It looks to me like the lower balljoint is upside down, while the upper one is in normal position. Correct?
I was thinking of flipping both upper and lower ball joints to maintain the same geometry, but if this geometry is better...
Very interesting stuff.
Pancho,
I will try to post a photo of the stock arrangement for comparison. I have the front wheels off of my parts car.
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So Micke, for a street car like mine, with 105 castor rods, and bilsteins, as opposed to coilovers, would you recommend going with the upside down route, or knuckle risers?
PACE sell the knuckle risers for $250 AUD, so not too expensive for a straight fit, with no other mods.
PACE sell the knuckle risers for $250 AUD, so not too expensive for a straight fit, with no other mods.
Fixing it bit by bit....
Micke,I see your running droop straps on the FRONT suspension...Now thats a first for me..Were you unloading any of the driven wheels that you went this route??
Without droop straps (or cable in this instance)I still lift a front inner wheel..
On the front wheel drive gta`s we limited droop to 5mm to trabsfer weight to the opposite front wheel...
Explain your use thereof??
Without droop straps (or cable in this instance)I still lift a front inner wheel..
On the front wheel drive gta`s we limited droop to 5mm to trabsfer weight to the opposite front wheel...
Explain your use thereof??
The droop stops don't touch in driving. They are just there to prevent the springs from falling when lifting the car.
I don't lift any wheel with the straps. I have similar in the rear as well.
I do have a plan to make them stiff enough and easily adjustable to use in cornering. This might work as it would have an aerodynamic advantage (reduced ground clearance while cornering). Has to be tried though.
I don't lift any wheel with the straps. I have similar in the rear as well.
I do have a plan to make them stiff enough and easily adjustable to use in cornering. This might work as it would have an aerodynamic advantage (reduced ground clearance while cornering). Has to be tried though.
Don't, it's the worst panic modification ever. If you try to do it both in the rear and front you will get a car that will go from pig understeer to wild oversteer and vice versa in a split second. I have tried it, and I will never try it again.
Barry, I'm assuming you are talking 105 chassis here? You still had the std geomery in the rear suspension?
Barry, I'm assuming you are talking 105 chassis here? You still had the std geomery in the rear suspension?
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-Scuderia Rosso- Now burned to the ground...
-onemanracing.com-
-Strandberg.photography-
GTV 2000 -77 - Died in the fire.
155 V6 Sport -96 - Sold!