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- junglejustice
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Thanks guys - yeah - in the original posts on the build (over on another forum), I did address that fan-gap a bit...
Yes, it would work better mounted flush, but I didn't like the fan-shroud's rubbing-effect - RIGHT ON the heat-exchanger/radiator like that! I guess that it is the way it was intended, but still - I sought to change it a bit and mounted it on rubber "shock-absorbers"...
We did consider the gap and the reduced vacuum that it creates, but that radiator/oil-heat exchanger is HUGE (straight out of a Ford GT350 race-catalogue!) The fan is also massive (16 inches) and the front of the motor gets plenty of cooling (the Evo front bumper has lots of openings...)
We typically don't see issues with cooling on these motors - they run much cooler in the TA cars, than they do in their original 164/156 and 147 chassis. We'll see. For now, the fan barely comes on with stationary running in the shop! I can still crank the thermo-setting down in the GoTech Pro-X box to make it come on sooner and stay on longer (all ECU-controlled.)
If I find once driving that it is an issue, I'll just remount it!
Thanks for the suggestions!
Yes, it would work better mounted flush, but I didn't like the fan-shroud's rubbing-effect - RIGHT ON the heat-exchanger/radiator like that! I guess that it is the way it was intended, but still - I sought to change it a bit and mounted it on rubber "shock-absorbers"...
We did consider the gap and the reduced vacuum that it creates, but that radiator/oil-heat exchanger is HUGE (straight out of a Ford GT350 race-catalogue!) The fan is also massive (16 inches) and the front of the motor gets plenty of cooling (the Evo front bumper has lots of openings...)
We typically don't see issues with cooling on these motors - they run much cooler in the TA cars, than they do in their original 164/156 and 147 chassis. We'll see. For now, the fan barely comes on with stationary running in the shop! I can still crank the thermo-setting down in the GoTech Pro-X box to make it come on sooner and stay on longer (all ECU-controlled.)
If I find once driving that it is an issue, I'll just remount it!
Thanks for the suggestions!
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- scott.venables
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As the fan area is smaller than that of the radiator I really see no problem with that. After all, the fan has an effect only at quite low speedsscott.venables wrote:Speaking of the thermo fan bracket, I think the fan would work better if there was no gap between the radiator core and the fan shroud.
The pins through the core work (we use them), but their only quality is that they're cheap. making a bracket is definitely the better choice
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- junglejustice
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I DROVE MY CAR TONIGHT for the first time!!!! Couldn't stand it anymore, the rear camber and toe is not done yet, but I just went ahead and put the side-shafts in there real fast and drove it around for a bit! (2 hours max of over-lapping labour to just pull them back out again at some point to do the cut and weld to the DeDion.)
It's winter here now any way - lots of time to do it! So, yeah - that's right - no front fenders, no rear bumper, no bonnet, no boot, no windshield (front or rear) and no side-windows either! It was a rare (cold) sunny winter's day in Seattle and it was just me and the (cold) wind! For that one brief moment - mine was the fastest track car in the land!
Sorry - no video - I'll be better prepared next time! This was just a wind that took me at around 2PM today and I just had to...
Freaking thing is AWESOME! WHAT A BLAST! The shift is flawless (even-though this is my old 3.55:1 80K mile LSD out of my street Verde, that shift-modification that Captain "RJR" Kangaroo said would NEVER work, worked FLAWLESSLY!) The car is bloody AMAZING! Sorry - no videos - got yelled at by some concerned citizen who came by after I made it back to the nest, but it was WORTH it!
Brakes are amazing - and the front/rear balance is VERY good - right out of the gate! The 2.0/2.1 turns lock-to-lock manual rack is just THE coolest ever!
The 3.7 pulls like a MONSTER - could not go much above 4K (one 2nd gear blip pulled it to 6K rpm and it felt like the thing was going to go straight up in the fucking sky!!!! Breaks traction on the new 17" 235 F1s in 3rd (even in 2nd with barely part-throttle tip-in - no clutch-work!)
Headed to the exhaust shop tomorrow! Dyno next week!
Car feels solid, cage is fantastic, handling is CRISP - what a pleasure! THREE YEARS in the making... I just can't say enough about the motor though - below 6K it pulls like a 400-plus horsepower V8 and at 6K it wants to snap your neck clean off like a TT!
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It's winter here now any way - lots of time to do it! So, yeah - that's right - no front fenders, no rear bumper, no bonnet, no boot, no windshield (front or rear) and no side-windows either! It was a rare (cold) sunny winter's day in Seattle and it was just me and the (cold) wind! For that one brief moment - mine was the fastest track car in the land!
Sorry - no video - I'll be better prepared next time! This was just a wind that took me at around 2PM today and I just had to...
Freaking thing is AWESOME! WHAT A BLAST! The shift is flawless (even-though this is my old 3.55:1 80K mile LSD out of my street Verde, that shift-modification that Captain "RJR" Kangaroo said would NEVER work, worked FLAWLESSLY!) The car is bloody AMAZING! Sorry - no videos - got yelled at by some concerned citizen who came by after I made it back to the nest, but it was WORTH it!
Brakes are amazing - and the front/rear balance is VERY good - right out of the gate! The 2.0/2.1 turns lock-to-lock manual rack is just THE coolest ever!
The 3.7 pulls like a MONSTER - could not go much above 4K (one 2nd gear blip pulled it to 6K rpm and it felt like the thing was going to go straight up in the fucking sky!!!! Breaks traction on the new 17" 235 F1s in 3rd (even in 2nd with barely part-throttle tip-in - no clutch-work!)
Headed to the exhaust shop tomorrow! Dyno next week!
Car feels solid, cage is fantastic, handling is CRISP - what a pleasure! THREE YEARS in the making... I just can't say enough about the motor though - below 6K it pulls like a 400-plus horsepower V8 and at 6K it wants to snap your neck clean off like a TT!
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Last ones for tonight 3AM...) too much excitement! Going to bed...
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