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Post by Barry » Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:43 pm

My current setup uses the ring method, but at the time I used an ally ring-works gtreat but I will use the thin steel plate method next time-although the race disk pic above is ny new setup.

As for the calipers,I do the discs first and then mount the cal`s where they have to fit once the disc is on.You can space the disc further in if you need the clearance for the caliper to clear the wheel(as in using the 15" wheel on the Praggias)Will get to the calipers tonoght.....
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Post by Barry » Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:50 pm

:!: Lennart,You must chamfer the spigot hole in the center of the disc as per the original.The hub has a generous radius and the chamfer is to clear this radius.

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Post by Barry » Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:00 am

Mr Norway,Just got off the line to Praggia.The 6 pot midi is what you require for your std 285mm disc.The pad size is 120mm (same as my Lancia Brembos). This is specifically designed for a disc of 285 to 295mm.x 22mm thick.

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Post by Zamani » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:37 am

Barry,

What about the bracketry and the cables for the 156 calipers for the rears? Are you also using 156 discs?
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Post by LENZ » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:48 am

Ok Barry , however had to look up the word chamfer.
:roll: makes sense though
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Post by Mats » Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:53 am

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Post by Barry » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:10 am

:? Z,Have not fitted the 156 rears to my car yet.Wont be any different in the fitting technique as to the 164 cals though.Im using the 155 v6 frnt discs at the rear.Ill pull of a rear wheel this weekend ,CLEAN up a bit and take pics for you....

Lennart,you following all so far??
What caliper you intend using??I used a set of Lancia evo Brembos amongst others..This is how I fitted the Brembos.
Put pads into the calipers and fitted them to the disc in the correct position.Id previously fitted the calipers with fittings so I could clamp them to the disc by using compressed air!This held the caliper firmly where I wanted it.The calipers had the mounting "ears" from the stubb fitted wich had been cut off earlier.
I then used 10 x 10mm square bar to make filler pieces and tack welded them together.Use short welds either side as a one sided weld warps the mounting and pulls the caliper over.Short tacks either side solves this problem..Remove the lot and paint .I fitted new bearings ,seals etc.and assembled all.Finito.

In the same pic you can see the ally adaptors I used to fit the radially mounted A.P.Racing calipers.The praggias use the same type of adaptor.

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Post by Barry » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:17 am

The radially mounted brackets for a gtv6..
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Post by Mats » Tue Dec 21, 2004 10:46 am

I guess this is your road car since you have not scraped off that rust-proof/sound dampening stuf in the wheel house? :wink:
Looks very standard in the rest of the setup too. :shock:
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Post by Barry » Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:56 am

Mats,yes,its my road car.A pretty old pic,ciolovers ans so forth now.But roll bar still rubber mounted.Lower controll arms running on bearings etc.Nothing fancy.Yup,still got the old tar stuff ubder neath

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Post by LENZ » Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:36 pm

Thanks Mats, nice gtv race car.

Barry i'll be using the 147gta 305mm set up with the brembo calipers.
The conversion looks pretty straightforward but the hardest part for me will be the adapter to fit the brembo's to the 75hub.
Welding won't be an option for me because i don't have the proper materials to do this and my (mig!) welding techniques aren't that good. I'd rather use an adapter.
The 75 mastercilinder doesn't match the dimensions of the 147 gta master (22mm - 15/16inch=23.8mm), did you change the gtv6 master cilinder?
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Post by Mats » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:38 pm

tnx, I think we kinda know each other from the 75 Yahoo forum (not there so much any more).
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Post by LENZ » Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:58 pm

Is that forum still active haven't been there for years.
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Post by P.Webb » Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:48 pm

LENZ wrote:Is that forum still active haven't been there for years.
It's there. Activity is up and down.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/alfa75/

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Post by junglejustice » Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:18 pm

Barry wrote::twisted: I love this!!Its like catching fish-All you need is the right bait!

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