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My rear brakes on the 116-Barry

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:24 am
by Barry
:D I finally pulled a wheel off and took some pics.Zamani,sorry it took so damn long. Nothing fancy, but very effective.

155 v6 front discs and 164 cal-Same as Ford essex sierra.
If I did this again,I would NOT use such a powerfull caliper,I would use a 156-155-164 rear caliper as these cars are very light in the rear.

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:30 am
by Barry
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:36 am
by Barry
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:18 am
by Maurizio
Barry,

Marvelous setup, is the handbrake hydraulic?
What size and brand master do you use, with the bigger volume at front/back?

Saluti,
Maurizio

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:45 am
by Mats
eeew, single piston sliding calipers... ;)

How about using the front (Brembo) calipers from a 75? Light and more then enough to brake the car.

The Alfetta I drove last summer had a setup with the front calipers from a 33 and the disc from a 164 rear. Would have worked pretty good if the calipers hadn't been in such a need of a rebuild... :|

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:54 am
by Barry
Maurizio,The master dia. is 25.4mm This was selected to give the right "feel"

Mats,I can always rely on your more than direct comments....thats what I appreciate about you.......
Yes,the caliper was almost dictated at as the others I had in mind dont fit with the wheel on.The cal. is way too big,heavy and powerfull.Wrong choice as I have said prviously.I will still go with a sliding cal, but off the rear of the 155.156 or 164.(or simmilar Golf,BMW etc..)I have a set of A.P CP 23 calipers that I want to fit next..one day...

Barry

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:44 am
by Carel
Hey Barry and Everybody els here.

Is having the brakes outboard really any advantage on the inboard

Carel

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:54 am
by Zamani
I haven't carried the rear brakes from the 75 for a long time. HEAVY! Compared to the wilwoods which weigh about 2 lbs? The Rear calipers weigh an easy 8-10 lbs.

But still, for cost reasons, sliding calipers are the way to go.

BTW, Barry, what about hand brakes?

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:45 pm
by LENZ
Nice one Barry, i'm planning on using my brembo original front brakes in the back since i'll be using the gta set up up front.
At first iwas looking for other options for the rear by using calipers with handbrake mechanisms but since i will no longer be using my new front brakes i might as well mount them on the rear axle. Looks like a good combination with the Gta brembo's in the front and the 2 times 48mm brembo pistons at the back. I'll start with the original master and adjuster but might go for a 23.8mm if necassery.
There will be an in line hydraulic handbrake(on standard handbrake handle) with adjustable brake pressure lever.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:13 pm
by Micke
Nice build Barry.

Probably a good choice for a budget long distance racer.
For short distance or street I'd keep the inboard brakes. For bigger budget we all know the sky is the limit.

Here's my setup.
Wilwood Dynalite II + Alfa SZ disks from Tar.Ox

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 12:20 am
by Maurizio
:D That was the future plan.
A cheap sliding cal. inboard use with vented disks, to keep the unsprung weight low.

But first start with using the origional brakes to the max :oops:

Inboard breaks overheating

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:25 am
by TNT
I saw in a greek magasine they have wraped part of the exhaust (including cat.) of an s2000 with exhaust insulating wrap (i think the one thats been used mostly on headers) and they saw up to 5° celcium decrease in temperature.I think that would help big time the rear brakes and off course would reduce the oil temperature in the transaxle wich is a big beneffit too. Think about it , it is not that expencive :roll: