Front Brake Pad Recomendations

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Front Brake Pad Recomendations

Post by mcandiago » Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:31 pm

Does anyone have any recommendations on Front Brake Pads for general street use.
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Post by Jim K » Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:28 pm

Most mild pads will work on the street. You can try Ferodo DS2000 as they're very friendly to discs. For harder use go to the DS2500 compound, which is still ok with discs but not as mild as the former.
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Post by mcandiago » Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:04 am

Thanks JimGreek for the advice.

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Re: Front Brake Pad Recomendations

Post by MManley » Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:33 pm

[quote="mcandiago"]Does anyone have any recommendations on Front Brake Pads for general street use.[/quote]

I'll definitely be getting stock pads next time. The last two sets have squealed
terribly until I warmed them up by very late braking. I'm sure several people have thought I was an idiot when I left braking til so late coming up behind them but it's that or listen to that terrible squeal. The seller swore the set of pads on now wouldn't squeal but he was wrong.
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Post by Jim K » Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:50 pm

Nobody likes squealing brakes. I don't know which pads you are referring to, but I have not had this problem with either DS2000 or 2500 pads (my hearing is very good, too :D ). I haven't found any concrete reasons for pad sqealing yet, but I hear that spraying the back of pads with copper spray helps and there is even a tube of ATE paste made for this!
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Post by jisop » Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:31 am

Last saturday, I went to buy set of ferodo DS2000 for 85 GTV6 but I could't find the ferodo DS2000.

Local auto shop(Repco) did't know about DS2000. They do have Brake pads in Exel and Formula TS2000 series.

This is a description of Formula TS2000 series.

Club sport and high performance applications.
High co-efficient of friction 0.46.
High temperature up to 650 degrees.
Consistent pedal feel from cold to hot.
Relatively kind to rotors.
Optimum performance when brakes are warm.

I think TS2000 is similar pads to DS2000 in Europe

Has anyone in Australia manage to buy DS2000?
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Post by Mats » Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:16 am

I think DS2000 was replaced by DS2500, it outperformed the DS2000 in all categories. So the new "wuzz-pads" is the 2500. ;)
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Post by Micke » Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:19 am

Here's something I'm afraid I keep reminding over and over and over again.

If you go and swap the front (or the rear) pads only to something with a different friction coefficient you'll end up changing the brake balance. A little is OK, but when you end up with .30 in one end and .46 in the other you're screwed either way.

My strong recommendation is to use same pads in both ends. Then the balance also doesn't change dramatically when the brakes warm up.
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Post by Mats » Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:20 am

But that .46 is just a load of BS. No way in hell I say.
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Post by Micke » Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:26 am

Could be. I don't know and its really not of big interest. However, many companies quote figures like this.

My point is:
Using brake pads with different friction and heat characteristics front and rear can lead to unexpected and bad results.
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Post by Maurizio » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:32 pm

DS2500 won't sqeal is my experience.

Has someone ever tried SBS pads? Keep hearing good things about them.


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Post by MD » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:41 pm

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Try this site to start with if you need a source of DS 2500

http://www.bsmsport.com.au/store/page.inetstore?id=27

I use them for street application but frankly don't get a great deal of difference in performance over the standard ATE pads overall. I know others have had different experience with them.

For street use I believe you need fairly cold pads as the brakes are "cold" most of the time and the pads need to work well in that situation. The Ferodos prefer hotter conditions and work best under aggressive driving conditions. So in summary, they are inferior to ATE when cold but superior when hot.

All depends on what your application is. Just my personal experience...
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Post by LENZ » Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:43 pm

I've got SBS carbon ceramic front and back and they are OK, but if the pagid blue weren't twice the price of the sbs pads i would have chosen Pagid again. I probably prefer the feel of the DS3000 over the sbs, might be a little more agressive , but i think my disks will last longer now.
SBS probably is the best choice because they perform well (also under cold conditions) and are relatively cheap.
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Post by jisop » Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:44 pm

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This is for my daily drive. My office is less than 10min away from home. Are you saying I better stick to standard ATE pads?

My local(canberra) club member recommend me a Lucas pads for everyday driving.

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Post by Micke » Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:56 pm

It makes no sense at all paying for track pads when you only want to commute. You need pads which work well without warming up.

Stick to OE or any decent replacement pads.

The "fancy" brake pads only pay off in track driving.
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