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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:31 pm
GoldGoldJoined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:17 amPosts: 65
Does anyone have any recommendations on Front Brake Pads for general street use.



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:28 pm
VerdeVerdeJoined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:10 amPosts: 1692Location: Athens,Greece
Most mild pads will work on the street. You can try Ferodo DS2000 as they're very friendly to discs. For harder use go to the DS2500 compound, which is still ok with discs but not as mild as the former.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:04 am
GoldGoldJoined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:17 amPosts: 65
Thanks JimGreek for the advice.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:33 pm
User avatarSilverSilverJoined: Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:06 amPosts: 8
[quote="mcandiago"]Does anyone have any recommendations on Front Brake Pads for general street use.[/quote]

I'll definitely be getting stock pads next time. The last two sets have squealed
terribly until I warmed them up by very late braking. I'm sure several people have thought I was an idiot when I left braking til so late coming up behind them but it's that or listen to that terrible squeal. The seller swore the set of pads on now wouldn't squeal but he was wrong.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:50 pm
VerdeVerdeJoined: Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:10 amPosts: 1692Location: Athens,Greece
Nobody likes squealing brakes. I don't know which pads you are referring to, but I have not had this problem with either DS2000 or 2500 pads (my hearing is very good, too :D ). I haven't found any concrete reasons for pad sqealing yet, but I hear that spraying the back of pads with copper spray helps and there is even a tube of ATE paste made for this!
Jim K.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:31 am
SilverSilverJoined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:57 pmPosts: 17Location: Australia
Last saturday, I went to buy set of ferodo DS2000 for 85 GTV6 but I could't find the ferodo DS2000.

Local auto shop(Repco) did't know about DS2000. They do have Brake pads in Exel and Formula TS2000 series.

This is a description of Formula TS2000 series.

Club sport and high performance applications.
High co-efficient of friction 0.46.
High temperature up to 650 degrees.
Consistent pedal feel from cold to hot.
Relatively kind to rotors.
Optimum performance when brakes are warm.

I think TS2000 is similar pads to DS2000 in Europe

Has anyone in Australia manage to buy DS2000?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:16 am
User avatarVerdeVerdeJoined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:26 amPosts: 4056Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
I think DS2000 was replaced by DS2500, it outperformed the DS2000 in all categories. So the new "wuzz-pads" is the 2500. ;)



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:19 am
User avatarVerdeVerdeJoined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:33 pmPosts: 810Location: Finland
Here's something I'm afraid I keep reminding over and over and over again.

If you go and swap the front (or the rear) pads only to something with a different friction coefficient you'll end up changing the brake balance. A little is OK, but when you end up with .30 in one end and .46 in the other you're screwed either way.

My strong recommendation is to use same pads in both ends. Then the balance also doesn't change dramatically when the brakes warm up.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:20 am
User avatarVerdeVerdeJoined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:26 amPosts: 4056Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
But that .46 is just a load of BS. No way in hell I say.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:26 am
User avatarVerdeVerdeJoined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:33 pmPosts: 810Location: Finland
Could be. I don't know and its really not of big interest. However, many companies quote figures like this.

My point is:
Using brake pads with different friction and heat characteristics front and rear can lead to unexpected and bad results.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:32 pm
User avatarVerdeVerdeJoined: Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:49 amPosts: 677Location: the Netherlands, 153.1km from the N'ring :-)
DS2500 won't sqeal is my experience.

Has someone ever tried SBS pads? Keep hearing good things about them.


Off topic: Nice avatar Micke :lol:



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:41 pm
User avatarVerdeVerdeJoined: Mon Nov 22, 2004 2:37 amPosts: 2295Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Try this site to start with if you need a source of DS 2500

http://www.bsmsport.com.au/store/page.inetstore?id=27

I use them for street application but frankly don't get a great deal of difference in performance over the standard ATE pads overall. I know others have had different experience with them.

For street use I believe you need fairly cold pads as the brakes are "cold" most of the time and the pads need to work well in that situation. The Ferodos prefer hotter conditions and work best under aggressive driving conditions. So in summary, they are inferior to ATE when cold but superior when hot.

All depends on what your application is. Just my personal experience...



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:43 pm
User avatarGoldGoldJoined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:43 amPosts: 72Location: Holland
I've got SBS carbon ceramic front and back and they are OK, but if the pagid blue weren't twice the price of the sbs pads i would have chosen Pagid again. I probably prefer the feel of the DS3000 over the sbs, might be a little more agressive , but i think my disks will last longer now.
SBS probably is the best choice because they perform well (also under cold conditions) and are relatively cheap.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:44 pm
SilverSilverJoined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:57 pmPosts: 17Location: Australia
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This is for my daily drive. My office is less than 10min away from home. Are you saying I better stick to standard ATE pads?

My local(canberra) club member recommend me a Lucas pads for everyday driving.

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:56 pm
User avatarVerdeVerdeJoined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:33 pmPosts: 810Location: Finland
It makes no sense at all paying for track pads when you only want to commute. You need pads which work well without warming up.

Stick to OE or any decent replacement pads.

The "fancy" brake pads only pay off in track driving.


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