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lucass81 · Post by **lucass81** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:58 pm

I want to have a GTV fast enough to beat modern popular sportcars, like Golf GTI, Mini Cooper S, etc. I think around 220hp in a 1.000kg GTV would be enough. The thing is how is the cheapest way to get there. Should it be a GTV6 with a 3.0 12v or a GTV with a hot cam TS 16v? and how do I get a GTV to weight 1.000kg keeping it street legal?
Recomendations please?

Greg Gordon · Post by **Greg Gordon** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:25 pm

Well, I am pretty comfy with my solution which can be seen in action here: http://alfagtv6.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t= ... 0d41c54904

Minis are no problem, not even the JCW versions.

lucass81 · Post by **lucass81** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:29 pm

I really like very much the supercharging option.
The thing is that I live in Argentina. I have to buy a kit offshores and install it here in Buenos Aires.

MR2 Zig · Post by **MR2 Zig** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:36 am

Greg,

Just so you know the 2006 JCW Mini Cooper S weighs about 2800lb and by the book has 207hp. The weight is from a truck scale at work. I don't know if the hp number is at the wheels or not.

For comparison my GTV6 weighs about 2800 on the same scale.

The JCW is my wife's car....she had to have purple....I insisted on the JCW kit (factory installed)

Scott

Greg Gordon · Post by **Greg Gordon** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:49 am

Thanks for the info. It's suprising how much newer cars weigh. My daughter wants one of those Minis, I like them too, but they are pretty expensive.

MR2 Zig · Post by **MR2 Zig** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:16 pm

While kind of pricy they seem to be holding value well (at least here in Ca.). Also they are pretty stout...I got T-boned in the 2002 mini S that we had with no intrusion into the passenger compartment. the ford focus that hit me was a total loss. The hit was in the drivers' door and i bounced my head off the window and not hurt (thick skull helps here). The mini was repaired for about $7k and drove fine for a year that we had it after that.

Scott

zambon · Post by **zambon** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:12 pm

2800 lbs! I am really surprised to hear that Minis weigh so much.

Most likely the structure that made it so strong in the crash ends up contributing significantly to the weight.

Still, it surprises me that one mini weighs as much as 1.5 new Lotuses.

MR2 Zig · Post by **MR2 Zig** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:34 pm

I think the mini is built using conventional unibody techniques, but the lotus is smaller yet (i sat in one) and uses aircraft assembly techniques and lots of aluminum.

About the only new car available here in the states that I'd want is the Exige S....if I can get into one

as I'm 6'3" and 220lbs.

Scott

MerrilGordon · Post by **MerrilGordon** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:53 am

I've parked my GTV6 next to Mini's and am amazed at how "not" mini these cars are. They are significantly wider and taller. The only dimension less is the length. I'd like to see on parked between a GTV6 and an old E30 325i. I would'nt be surprised if Mini dwarfed the BMW as well. Never the less, I like the Mini's, and they make more sense to some owners compared to F350 Fords or Hummer H2's. . . . .and of course they have to meet more stringent safety requirements than the old stuff.

Merril

Neil McC · Post by **Neil McC** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:04 pm

1963 model Mini Cooper S 1071cc; 639kg / 70bhp
length 3170mm, width 1400mm, height, 1350mm

2007 model Mini Cooper S 1600cc; 1205kg / 175bhp
length 3714mm, width 1683mm, height 1407mm

Personally, I'd rather have the old one.

Neil.

Cheapest way of making a mini S killer