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Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 11:30 pm
by Alfaaa1
Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack Bosch part number is :0221504456.

Hi,
Can I have some confirmation that these coil packs do have built in ignitors.


And has any one fitted a Gotech Pro7 to a 24V Busso v6 with these standard coil packs.

Regards

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:25 pm
by KevinR
Yes I have fitted three gotech's with the coil packs on the 24v . Gotech has built in igniters .

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:31 pm
by Jim K
Bosch Part number 0221504456 is just a dumb coil, used in Alfa 24v engines. In the 164Q4 and 156 cars, the output stage is in the ecu and the other two 24v 164's (with afm) have two separate power modules on a bracket near the engine.

Jim K.

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:27 pm
by Alfaaa1
Thankyou Kevin and Jim,

I was told that the Gotech Pro 7 could not be used with the Alfa V6 standard coil packs.

I want to keep the standard coil packs as I also have a Phase 3 916 3.2 Spider and I have spare coil packs on the shelf.

I am shopping around for a stand alone ECU.

I had been recommended to use a Gotech Pro X.

Has any one used a Gotech Pro X ECU. Are they good.

I forgot to mention I am fitting a 3.2 to my Alfetta GTV. :D

Regards

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:06 am
by KevinR
Gotech has moved on to a newere software and new platforms under the name Powermods . So much easier . Just contact Powermods ECU and they will answer all your question . They also offer dash display units . Excellent value for money and they will load a pretty accurate base map .
Both these cars run powermods ie first two featured here , blue and white 24v GTV and the twin turbo 24v GT
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4785&view=unread#unread

Speak to Paulo or Domi at http://powermods.co.za
They can supply you a gotech as they still own it but just use a Powermods .

If you live in Oz why don't you just get a Haltech ?

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:59 am
by 105gta.
Just curious, has anyone ran the factory 24v coils with a cdi unit?

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:17 pm
by 75evo
Beninca said it's possible. The Autronic CDI 500R can be used with he Alfa 24V COP.

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:03 am
by 105gta.
That's good to hear. That's what I have and was planning on giving it a go.

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:52 pm
by Alfaaa1
I have just purchased a Gotech Pro X ,

Looking forward to fitting it to my Alfetta GTV with the 3.2 24v :D

Thanks guys for the info.

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:32 pm
by 75evo
Does anyone know the pin out of the 24v coil pack?

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:46 pm
by LukeC
Does anyone know the pin out of the 24v coil pack?
Give me a few days. I have to lift the coil cover on Sunday for start. To get the base timing for #1, I am going to rig a dummy coil up to connect to the harness. I need to know exactly this myself.

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:39 am
by 75evo
I got the info from Beninca. Center pin in ground. I'll paste the photo later.

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:23 pm
by LukeC
A step closer for me on the weekend. Working through a few issues.

When you say "Centre pin in ground", do you mean grounded to engine or trigger?

I am using the injector and coil harness off a 166. On this harness, power goes to the pole you have circled in red, green (centre) is earthed to the engine and yellow is the trigger. Having said that I have not got a spark yet. As #1 is under the plenum, I am jury rigging a spare coil to set the base timing.

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:18 pm
by 75evo
The green pin is GND. Yellow is trigger.

What ignition system are you using? Are you using the Bosch 203 igntion module?

Re: Busso V6 3.2 24v Coil Pack

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:02 pm
by LukeC
Haltec HPI 6.

I am not getting a home signal. I am not completely sure on the Signal, Power and Ground pins on the cam angle sensor (May be stuffed). I ave two, and they both test the same with a multi meter. If you know, can you post (i.e. Red...., Green.... and Yellow....). The plug is the same as the COP coil pictured above. This is the only thing it appears to setting base timing and starting it.

Thanks in advance.

Luke