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Rack & pinon Steering

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:47 pm
by cchan
Hello Everyone,

I was wondering what type of service should be done to the rack & pinion steering. I have the engine out and I am looking at this. I might as well sevice it since it is accessable right now. I was thinking of just greasing it and changing the rubber boots. Does anyone have any advise on the easiest way to do this and if there is anything else I should do?

Thanks for any suggestions. :D

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:21 am
by SimonB
Also, any good swaps with other tranaxle cars to speed up the steering a bit?

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:11 pm
by MD
cchan,
It's a good idea to replace the rack end ball joints and possibly the tie rod ends all at the same time along with a thorough clean, inspection,new lube for the rack and new boots.

This is a safety issue and if you don't know what you are doing, may I suggest you have it professionally reconditioned?

Naturally, as all these changes will affect your front wheel alignment when it all goes back, you will need to attend to that as well.

SimonB

I think the early series 1.8 GTV's had a shorter steering ratio. At least that is what I recall from driving one. However, with most guys using bigger wheels and tyres than they were originally fitted with these days, you may find the steering a touch heavy during slow turns/parking.

You can of course install a ratio converter on your current steering colum if that is what you want.

Steering

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:06 pm
by Paul Bird
You could use the power steering set up from an alfa 75!!

Paul UK

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:17 am
by MD
You could use power steering at the price of steering feedback-it's what Alfas are all about.

Sorry Paul..

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:53 am
by Sporttunergtv6
you could also convert that power steering rack to a manual rack like greg gordon did on his super verde.
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Re: Steering

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:37 am
by Mats
Paul Bird wrote:You could use the power steering set up from an alfa 75!!

Paul UK
Have you done this? How did you convert the different spline on the pinion between the Spica racks on the Alfetta cars and the 75 cars?

Steering

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:45 am
by Paul Bird
I fitted the steering column from a 3.0L 75, I don't know if there is a way to adapt the standard steering column to the power steering rack. As far as steering 'feel' is concerned, I have 17'' MOMO GT2 wheels and a Ron Simmons coilover set up on my car and the feel is very good, for me any way!

Paul UK

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:30 pm
by MD
Mats,

I have fitted a power rack to an Alfetta Sportiva. I think the components came out of a 164. Because the steering box housing is taller, the steering shaft has to be shortened and re-splined. You also have to make a new hold down position for the rack on the front crossmember. Otherwise the installation is straightforward. This is our town car and the wife takes it shopping...It's easy for her to park.

Paul,

I agree the Alfa power steer has a good feel as far as power steering systems go and it is also relativley fast responding but it is not a patch on a manual rack for feedback. Really depends on what you want, convenience or ultimate feedback. Some drivers actually do not like feedback in steering wheels. They think it is too harsh and manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to isolate this out of their cars to keep customers happy. The Japs and Yanks are renowned for it.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:04 pm
by Murray
My point of reference is the power rack on my 75TS vs the manual rack on my GTV6.I would say that the 75PS gives up very little in the way of feedback and if someone wanted to adapt PS.to the GTV6 I'm pretty sure they'd be satisfied with that setup.I don't know if the Twinspark rack is the same as that which was used on the Milano but they don't seem to be as susceptable to leaking.(maybe I should shut up :twisted: )