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it is a real shame that this project has come to this because both of you have contributed so much to the GTV6 site.

Bot of you are entering into certain legal situations with these posts and before all the lawsuits begin, perhaps it's time for a third party independent mediator.

You can tell me to go stuff myself because I don't know all the details, but I have been in similar circumstances and a third party legal mediator helped tremendously.
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it is a pitty :cry:
please argue via pm because we canot judge this situation :shock:
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Man, my head is spinning from this thread - it's like all those hundreds of great posts, the car, pulling the motor, painting, rebuilding, are just down the tube - a complete anti-climax :cry:

And, xrad is quite right, keep this stuff off the bb and go for a mediator if you must - call in the lawyers and you know that in the end nobody is going to "win" except the lawyers.

Enough of that - Chuck, more photos of the gtv6 - please ... well, at least after these recent rains stop.

Did you ever get your gauges rebuilt? How do they look??

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Hello Everyone,

Duetto 67 took some pictures the other day when he stopped by and I just figured out how to resize them. I still need to find a hood latch so the hood is slightly open in the picture due to the new molding. I misplaced mine ( Anyone have an extra one or information on where to source one). I also need to get new windshield wipers( Any suggestions on upgrades and where to source them). The interior is now done with the exception that I need to have the sunvisor clips, rear door window knobs (Anyone have an extra ones or information to source one) and put on the new steering wheel. I will post the interior pictures when I complete this. Hopefully I will get to this before the end of the year.

I still did not fix the gauges but I will be doing that shortly and will post some pictures of the new gauges.
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cchan,
you probably should get a hood pad on or some kind of heat insulation on the underside of the hood so as to prserve the wonderful paint work.

you may have already considered one of the high heat coatings for your headers, but that would also help the underhood temps. ( caps is here in fresno) http://www.capsbhc.com/ . I have no relation to them but they do have a good product if a bit expensive.

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WOW :D Out in the sunshine - it looks awesome! And the ride height looks perfect! I know you've had a bunch of headaches with this rebuild ... but really, wow that is one drop-dead gorgeous car.

Call APE and get a set of Milano wiper arms for it, they have a little more angle in them and actually work better than the gtv6 arms - they just bolt on. The other stuff you can probably get a hold of over the next few months form people parting cars, etc.

I thought I saw someone on ebay selling underhood pads a while back - not original though and don't know if they are just cosmetic or heat shields - an alternative would be aftermarket stuff like:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/shopping/prod ... _Hoodliner

Note that stuff is .75" thick - may be too thick and will rub on engine - but there is probably some thinner stuff out there.

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Chuck,
Also noticed that radiator reservoir looks brand new - watch out it will probably crack and leak in no time - I went though about 3 of those within a 1-1/2 year period a few years back, it got so I didn't trust driving the car if I were to get stuck in traffic somewhere - you need to get one of the Canton ones in that car, they not only look great but they hold up.

http://www.international-auto.com/index ... id=1173954

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Thanks for the suggestions on my Alfa. I have driven it about 10 miles so far at the most. We are towing it around still due to no registration, and I need to put on the cam timing covers. Phil told me that if a rock gets between the belts and the pulleys that it could cause a major problem so he suggested that we do not use the Alfa until we address this.

We have already had the headers ceramic coated for the heat but I do like the chrome look. They still get very hot though but I will not bother with this for now since there are still alot of other details to attend to.

We will also be putting sometype of insulation on the hood shortly. We still need to put back on the windshield washer jets and tubes so that we can have this working properly. This system was broken before the restoration and I need to source a new windshield washer tank since the original one is discolored and the old tubes were brittle and cracked due to age. They seem impossible to find but we are still looking.

Finally, the radiator reservoir is brand new and we were considering the canton system. Most likely if this one fails we will upgrade but for now we need to deal with the other details. We have not figured out how much we will really use this Alfa for now. We did have alot of unforseen issues on the restoration but for the short drives that we have done, it was worth it. :D My Alfa was a piece of junk before (wifes' opinion) and we have transformed it into a custom street car. :) This is a mircle to me since I was truely going to give up and sell it since I was so disappointed with certain stages of the restoration.

One of my friends already wants to buy it but because it was my college car, and we put so much effort into getting were we are today, we declined. We know we can not get another GTV6 in this condition unless
we do another project which I am not inclined to build another GTV6 at this time.
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That car looks fantastic, and the engine installation looks very professional. Your mechanic is correct about the need for a timing belt cover. I would put one on right away.

I just can't stop looking at the pictures of this car, the paint and wheels really make it look special, and the fact that it has the power to back up the great looks is icing on the cake.

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Thanks Greg,
Even though I have never met you yet, you were one of the first posts when we started this project. I respect your work with your supercharger on the GTV6. We will see if it really has 270hp when Phil, his son and the dyno tune person tune for max power. I can tell that it is much faster than it was before and I have not even driven it hard yet.

In regards to the ride height, we were thinking that the back is perfect but we should lower the front at least another inch or so. I know its not fun playing with the torsion bars but does the forum think it :?:
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Post by la_strega_nera »

Looks lovely mate, glad to see it done despite the hassles you've had. I think the ride heights are great, not a fan of seeing excessive rake in them (besides, sends the front end geometry to hell).
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I'll bet it will have about 270hp or about 220-230 at the wheels. That's a lot in a GTV6. It should be able to beat most of the current quick sport compacts including the RX8, Civic SI, WRX etc.

Judging by the pictures I would not lower the front end any more. I'll bet your oil pan is already within 5" of the ground. During spirited driving the suspension will compress and it will be even closer to oil pan damaging obstacles. It's no fun to break an oil pan.

Ben's point about suspension geometry is exactly correct. If you lower the front end any more you will loose cornering grip due to geometric changes. The only way around that is with SZ uprights or an equivalent substitute. However that's not really practical on a street car because of the oil pan issue.

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VERY NICE!!!

Really a great color combination...glad to see you are continuing to post.


Once you get on the road officially..post some video!!
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Chuck,
It looks great! Ride height looks pretty good to me. Lowering it much more and you need to watch out (even more) for your down pipes etc. Hard to tell from pics, but it looks like you are pretty close to Ron's recommendation for his setup in terms of front relative to rear ride height. You could of course fine tune with corner balancing, but for a street car I'm not sure it is worth it.
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Post by Barry »

That car is nice!! Well done Chuck ! As they say,the bitterness is long forgotten once the first 10 miles are driven,hey? :wink: :D
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