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matfo · Post by **matfo** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:20 pm

I'm currently conversing an Alfa 164 Q4 engine to fit my GTV6.
My first plan was to use the Q4 manifolds but it seems more or less impossible to modify them to fit.

On my 2,5 engine I have a pair of SZ manifolds and I have read that someone modified those to fit on a 24v engine.
First of all I don't really want to "destroy" the SZ manifolds and second they have smaller diameter then the original Q4 so it it not an optimal solution.

Since there are a number of 116 cars with 24v engines on this forum I'm curiuos to know how you all have solved it.

Post by **Zamani** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:40 pm

You can get from a few places:

Beninca Motors (Australia)
Glenwood Motors (South Africa)

Or you can make your own by modifying the Q4 manifolds. Requires lots of modification, but the flange part is usable as well as the collector.

matfo · Post by **matfo** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:05 pm

Zamani wrote:You can get from a few places:

Beninca Motors (Australia)
Glenwood Motors (South Africa)

Or you can make your own by modifying the Q4 manifolds. Requires lots of modification, but the flange part is usable as well as the collector.

Thanks, now I have mailed them both. Hopefully I get answers soon.

If it's not possible to buy a pair then I think your other suggestion maybe the soultion to go for.

Post by **Michael** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:02 pm

Just curious, ... are there any pics of the Beninca 24v headers online?
Anyone know the approx cost?

Post by **Zamani** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:58 pm

Beninca's headers are 1.7" ID primaries.

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery/album416/aam

About AUS$2K.

Larry Jr. also did headers, not sure if he is anymore. Price was US$1K + 164LS/Q headers.

Either way, not cheap at all.

matfo · Post by **matfo** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:03 am

Zamani wrote:Beninca's headers are 1.7" ID primaries.

http://www.alfapower.nu/gallery/album416/aam

About AUS$2K.

Larry Jr. also did headers, not sure if he is anymore. Price was US$1K + 164LS/Q headers.

Either way, not cheap at all.

Thanks for the link to the picture of the headers.
There where also a couple of other pictures that will be of interest for me when I'm working on my 24v conversion.

Alfettish · Post by **Alfettish** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:44 am

PACE might do them. vsharp@hotkey.net.au

kevin · Post by **kevin** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:41 am

Hi "Matfo" Mats
You can use the 164 headers in the 116 conversion but you need to do some heating and bending. The negatives are you have remove engine or shift over to one side of the bay to remove the headers. check out the following pics.

kevin · Post by **kevin** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:45 am

close ups

kevin · Post by **kevin** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:46 am

Other side

kevin · Post by **kevin** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:48 am

Under side. left. Some very tight bends. Best you do these on the engine stand.

kevin · Post by **kevin** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:49 am

Under side right.

Barry · Post by **Barry** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:00 am

Kev,Pics of the INSIDE of the pipe?

kevin · Post by **kevin** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:30 am

Ha Ha. I can send you one now. Take you a while to figure it out. No flash needed. Dont want singe anything.

matfo · Post by **matfo** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:25 am

Thanks for all your suggestions!

Kevin, that looks really tight...

However now I bougth a pair of exhaust manifolds from SA that are on the way to me any day now

Exhaust manifolds for 24v in GTV6