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928??
Bit limited on dif ratio choices... I guesss the Corvette T56 based setup is limited in ratio choices too.
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Why is it better to have the rear wheels inside or equal to the front track?
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Yep , its a 928 box. Ratios are a problem.
I personally think its better to go wider than narrower if understeer is an issue. Like you used to do in karting when setting up a kart with spacers on front wheels only.
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I think it helps to put YOU in charge of understeering or oversteering (or not)as the situation more or less calls for rarther than the car having an inbuilt bias. I also think it helps with turn inns..

Straight line stuff is all about traction. Sports touring is all about the bends and getting around them.
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My new lightweight dash . Just one layer of sheeting. Now I can start arranging some sort of dash . Mats what page was your dash lay out on.
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Here, scroll down a bit.
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Hi Kev- I must say, I have really enjoyed seeing this all come together- one of the great things about this forum is that people share their knowledge and experience for the greater good. A lot of things to consider when building up a tough GTV or 75.

Anyway, I thought I would add, after seeing your 928 schemings, that I did once see a Renault truck transaxle and thought it would fit in the DeDion. Don't remember anything about tailshaft couplings but I remember the clutch being integrated. Being a diesel, the ratios would be pretty interesting, but with all your 3.7 torque, it shouldn't be too bad :wink: I think was something like a Un-1 transaxle? I think VW bug guys use them in hipo Kombis.

The other option, which I recall seeing somewhere on the forum, was to rear mount a getrag. It was done in the cradle of a 2002 which had its' IRS converted to trailing arms out of an E30, I think. The clutch issue is the problem there, obviously, but I don't think any of use would argue with the strength and ratios of a 1:1 dogleg Getrag up the back.

When you moving Downunder?

It looks like I will be starting to come to work in Johberg shortly- via V Australia... i may even be there in about 4 weeks' time... keep you posted

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Jules , if you really forced to visit Johannesburg i can take you to all the tuners and put some laps in around the neighbourhoods and on a circuit . :D Seriously you better chat to me before you wander around here.
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''bumber'' thats what happened to Konrads car today in the rain . The first customer to the new nose section.
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:(

Understeer into tires?
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Oversteer turn two Kyalami in qualifying. Believe it or not ,it was the first wet race in three years. None of the four accidents were understeer , all the back stepping out BUT we found out the there was a lot of oil left on the cicuit from a previous race which the marshalls did not pick up in the downpour. At least Konrad did a bit fender straightening and got out there to finish 8th in next race after spinning twice more (in the first lap). That 3.0 carbi has so much torque.
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Nah, he just need to drive it in the rain more... 8)
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I must admit I spin at least three times in wet race. I struggle under braking not cornering. They aint no snow here to practice on. Even skiing teaches you good feel and balance.
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I recommend going to a drifting school to a lot of racers looking to improve their confidence and lap times. Yet no one seems to take the advice seriously for some reason.

To me, it's perfectly logical - some of the worst accidents are from oversteering, and then over correcting/not timing the corrections properly, and there's a crash. Or, sometimes people are afraid of the oversteer, so don't push the car enough.

Everyone should go to a drift school at least once!
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kevin wrote:I must admit I spin at least three times in wet race. I struggle under braking not cornering. They aint no snow here to practice on. Even skiing teaches you good feel and balance.
You spin while breaking in a straight line?? Sounds like a monumental brake bias problem, in the wet you are normally moving brake bias rearwards but if you are locking the rears in the wet it must be like riding a horny viper in the dry. :shock:

grant: dorifto?
Those guys are way slow around a circuit, maybe that's why it's difficult to take them seriously. 8)
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