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braided lines

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:35 am
by sh0rtlife
ok guys ive been thinking about the lines on this 83 gtv6 and got wondering about braided lines.....ive never used them on ANY of my cars befor ..but ive always been a straight line racer not one for corners...what kind of improvement is there for going to braided

also i got wondering about other aplications...does anyone have a list of other cars that use the same brake line...if so it may be posible to source a set for VERY VERY cheep with a little bit of digging

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:56 am
by Mats
Teflon, teflon lines with metal braid for protection. Steel braided rubber lines are exactly the same as rubber... 8)

I'm not sure teflon lines are better then new std lines though.

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:44 pm
by sh0rtlife
figured theres enuf track guys here to actualy get a good idea of 'real world' abuse...sooooo any recomendations as to where and who to get lines thru for stock and or 'better' lines

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:03 pm
by Micke
I'd get the braided lines. They don't cost much more than stock stuff. I don't know if they help much but sure don't hurt.
You can get them from most tuning shops. I bought the parts (lines, ends) from a hydraulics shop and made them myself.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:12 am
by John in Denver
A note on my recent experience with the steel braided line available as sets... I've tried 2 different sets on my '83 and could NOT get a good non-leakable seal on any of them. I put the original lines back and the seal is perfect on all lines. The ends of the braided lines don't appear to be machined as accurately as the originals which have slightly more rounded heads than the braided. I'm going to give up and try a new set of non-braided.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:38 pm
by x-rad
John in Denver:

What brand braided did U use so I can avoid them if possible....

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:23 pm
by Mats
I have used Goodridge without problems, TÜV approved.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:10 pm
by Mericet
I have a set that I bought before I even bought my GTV6. I believe it was from Performatek. I will be installing them tomorrow night (or is that tonight?) I will let everyone know how the install goes and if there are any issues.

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:49 pm
by Dennis
I've used Goodridge lines on my GTV and my 75 racer and it's great stuff. Better feel then the old rubber ones. The new series have a teflon hose which is braided with stanless and then covered with teflon again to protect it against stonechips. The fit is good, seal is good. And they cost 70 euros or something, good investment IMO.

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:48 pm
by Mericet
Mine was in fact from Goodridge as well. I have only done the one front side, but it was as easy as it can be when working on old rusty cars. I will know by the weekend if they leak. Quick question for those that have done this: The stock lines have a rubber piece that "clips" into a bracket. Did you secure the braided lines somehow after the swap or did you just leave them hanging loose?

And does anyone know where to find new pins that hold the pads in place? US supplier preferred.

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:56 pm
by Mats
I cut that little rubber sleeve from the original lines and put them on the new ones with some vulcanising tape and clipped them into the clamp. Works fine.

The pins are a nightmare, can't be found anywhere. :x

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:28 pm
by Micke
The pins are a nightmare, can't be found anywhere
Biltema???

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:23 am
by Maurizio
For clipping the braided hoses I used a few cm of the brake asist vacuum hose, fits perfect.

I also need a set of pins, a previous owner managed to bend the pins from an extra set of stock brembo’s I bought. Couldn't get the pins and pads out, after cutting the pins I discovered the nice arc form. :shock:

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:36 am
by Mats
Micke wrote:
The pins are a nightmare, can't be found anywhere
Biltema???
Hmm, the one place I haven't looked actually... :)
The next issue, for the original design pins or the ones you get with a factory rebuilt caliper..? :?

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:20 am
by Mericet
Thanks for the advise. I was also thinking it would be best to cut of the old lines' sleeve and use that. I definitely knew it would be bad to leave it as is as I was sure the bracket would catch on the lines and damage them.

I have been speaking to the guys in our machine shop at work about the pins. I think I might have an alternative. A little bit of work but it shoud be easy to do, even at home.