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Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:48 am
by gaborb
Finished the mock-up, at the end it came all together nicely.
Zender 16" versus 305mm GTA disk:
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Disk with caliper installed:
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Bracket is attached:
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Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:32 am
by killaz
Friend modified calipers for ears clearance. It seems that there's not much to grind...
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:32 pm
by sz996
alfa sz 330 tarox g88
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:08 pm
by xrad
quite a bit of leverage now on the oe cast fe parts...do you feel any fear of failure?
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 3:11 pm
by MD
What is the minimum rims size this set up will fit please?
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:19 am
by Mats
xrad wrote:quite a bit of leverage now on the oe cast fe parts...do you feel any fear of failure?
Wheel torque should stay the same...
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:14 am
by Giuliettaevo2
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:38 am
by Giuliettaevo2
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:54 pm
by BradGTV
looks great!
you dont have any pictures of the car with the wheels on it? i have a set the same but cant see what they look like until i put the 75 hubs onto the gtv
did you also need to machine out the back of the rim to fit onto the hub?
for now, im going to put volvo 4pot calipers on 164 rotors for my track car, does anyone know whats required to fit the 164 rotors to a 75 hub?
cheers, Brad
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:10 am
by Giuliettaevo2
Sorry, no pics from the wheels on the car
... And they're for a GTV anyway.
The centering hole needs enlarging to 72mm and needs a small 45 degree edge to fit the hub nicely. But i think you'll also need a spacer between the disc and the hub if you use the 164 disc.
And ofcourse there is the issue of the wheelstuds. the 75 ones don't fit the 164 disc, holes are a bit larger and there is nothing to keep them from turning ( on the 75 disc they have an edge/rim and a flat spot at the bolt head that keeps them from turning.
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:26 pm
by kterkkila
Mats wrote:xrad wrote:quite a bit of leverage now on the oe cast fe parts...do you feel any fear of failure?
Wheel torque should stay the same...
I guess xrad ment leverage for new attaching points on gaborbs solution. One Finnish guy thought the same idea. If I recall right, I calculated that the M12 bolts would snap, if there's any play.. There's only few centimeters from center to bolts..
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:47 am
by 155ts
Giuliettaevo2 wrote:The Opel Vivaro/Nissan Primastar discs didn't work out to well so i deleted the info..
Hi, What was a problem. I have think of those discs for my setup, so it would be nice to know if there is some problem before i buy those discs
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:44 am
by Giuliettaevo2
In the centering hole there is a 45 degree angle,( because the hub doesn't have a sharp angle but a slight curve the disc needs a small angle to clear that so that it touches the surface of the hub perfectly) but it's on the wrong side... On the Opel/Nissan the discs are fitted over the hub while on the Alfa they're behind the hub.
If you now cut a new 45 degrees on the other side of the disc you end uo with a very small centering ring or even a slightly larger centering hole.
I hope this is clear...
quite hard to explain in English..
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:35 am
by PietereQ
Just out of simple curiosity, has anyone tried 166 calipers and rotors on a 116? A bit bigger than Gtv / Gta rotor (310mm) but should still fit in 16". Not to mention the prices...
Re: Some more brake upgrades for the 116-Barry
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:54 am
by Giuliettaevo2
Thought about that one also.
I use the 166 calipers but not the discs. the 166 disc has a 5x108 PCD so needs more modifying to fit the 5x98 hub.
The 166 caliper is slightly bigger as the GTA caliper as well. I use the 166 caliper with some 4mm widening plates on the 2003+ GTA 330x32mm discs. But this will definetly only fot in a 17" wheel.