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KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:03 am
by OrMar
Say I go completely mad now my GTV finally started after 5 long years (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpHlEobQMf8) and decide to use leftovers from my other car (RS2 spec Audi 220V), how do turbo experts expect it would behave ?

So, we have 3.0 engine, probably with megasquirt, plus KKK K24-7000 turbo ?
That turbo is good for around 280hp in 2.2 5 cylinder Audi engine, developing max torque at around 2000 rpm.

I would probably run it on standard engine internals, with some form of intercooling, and wouldn't exceed 0.4 bar (6 psi).

Also have original 3b injectors, Bosch 0280150737, rated at 305cc/min@3bar, which I would probably use.

So, If somebody really don't have anything better to do, please express your opinions.
:)

Thank you,
Mario

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:26 am
by Mats
Sounds reasonable.
Quite a lot of work but I do understand the logic.

What language is that? Russian?

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:41 pm
by OrMar
Croatian. Russians adapted to our language during Tito's reign as an oath of eternal friendship.
So should Swedes.
:)

But, back to the subject: do you think I could be looking into 250hp with such a setup?

Mario

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:22 pm
by Giuliettaevo2
250 hp is not impossible with that turbo. spool up will be very good since it is a smaller turbo. offcourse you can always upgrade to a larger KKK as found on the Porsches if you get bored.. :wink:

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:27 pm
by Mats
Damn. Croatia was actually my second guess. :)

250hp is definetly reachable, especially since you are ditching L-Jet. :D

What are your ideas about the exhaust manifold?

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 3:50 pm
by OrMar
My expert team would try to fabricate something - will take a month free and re-read all "turbo" posts here. :)

Probably use Audi externat wastegate too, since I'm familiar with these.

Mario

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:19 am
by rz
intercooling is not necessary with 6psi

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:02 am
by Mats
rz wrote:intercooling is not necessary with 6psi
Why give away power?

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:05 am
by OrMar
Actually I have quite large Mercedes Sprinter IC laying around which I didn't use for Audi. If it fits, I would probably use it.

Mario

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:04 am
by superfly tnt
since im involved in this video ( holding the camera ) and my friend Tomo is cranking the GTV while talking about exhausts on trucks, i have to tell that we spent about one week of reviving the GTV and there is still plenty of job to be done. i suggest you first drive the car as it is now. ( when was the last time you drove a RWD? :D ) 182 hp are quite enough for now. Try to MS it and if you are not satisfied then, bolt that turbo on it.

there is just one thing with that turbos, the devil on your shoulder will always tell you " turn that damn nut on the wastegate . until something blows.

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:20 am
by Giuliettaevo2
weld the nut... :wink:

But he has a point there. enjoy the car as it is now first and make the MS work. when it works on MS you can fit the turbo.

as for the manifold; you can use the original left handside manifold with a cross-over to the custom-manifold on the righthandside. just look for Barry's single turbo conversions ( but be aware that his car is righthanddrive! so the downpipe he uses will not be possible on a european car since there is a steeringrack there...).

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:53 am
by superfly tnt
i know who already has the single turbo manifold made to fit the GTV. :D
ill give that information for a pair of rear konis on your donor GTV :D :D :D

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:19 am
by OrMar
superfly tnt wrote:( when was the last time you drove a RWD? :D )
You will remember last time I drove RWD on the "track": no brakes (now at least we know why), no steering (rack is completely gone), no suspension, no engine (2.0V6), but at least full driveshaft vibrations.
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_q7ra66kdQ

"sembra cadere a pezzi....a 20 all'ora "
:lol:

Mario

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:22 am
by OrMar
superfly tnt wrote:i know who already has the single turbo manifold made to fit the GTV. :D
ill give that information for a pair of rear konis on your donor GTV :D :D :D
It your info includes 50% discount for the manifold, we have a deal!
:)
And don't worry, this whole thread is strictly hipothetical.

Mario

Re: KKK K24-7000 turbo on Alfa 3.0 V6

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:54 am
by superfly tnt
OrMar wrote:
superfly tnt wrote:( when was the last time you drove a RWD? :D )
You will remember last time I drove RWD on the "track": no brakes (now at least we know why), no steering (rack is completely gone), no suspension, no engine (2.0V6), but at least full driveshaft vibrations.
:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_q7ra66kdQ

"sembra cadere a pezzi....a 20 all'ora "
:lol:

Mario

i remeber that, i was there too. 2 days of glory :D :D :D