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Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:06 am
by 75evo
OK, headgasket, can I get a 0.5 point bump in compression with thinner head gasket? I might supercharge my 3.2 later on and would like to avoid milling the head if that is possible.
A friend of mine is having cometic make an MLS type gasket for his 3.5 24V for his 105. I wonder if I could do the same.
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:07 am
by AlanV6
Finally the crank is balanced!
And i've got piston rings:
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:57 am
by Mats
Wow, that was more than just a little bit of drilling. Thank god, imagine the feeling if he had said "It's ok, no drilling needed"
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:10 pm
by Jim K
Hah! That's what
MOST of those bolting rwd flywheels to ex-fwd engines say! ...The less you know, the better off you are!
Jim K.
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:38 pm
by AlanV6
i really wonder how do those engines run where they just swap 15kg dualmass for singlemass 8kg...
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:47 pm
by Jim K
The best answer is:
WHO CARES?
Jim K.
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:30 pm
by 75evo
You know what they say.... if it ain't broken.... eventually it will break but who gives a %*&^ anyway, because the timing belt, water pump, tensioner, etc will break first.
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 12:27 pm
by AlanV6
Cleaning the crank
Measuring all again with new bearings
crank assembled and main bearings torqued
liners in (widest side aligned with crank - well they are within specs anyway)
ring gaping (took me 3 hours to do and measure all!)
pistons and rods assembled and put into block
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:50 pm
by Mats
Nice!
Feels good to finally put everything back together, right?
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 12:59 pm
by AlanV6
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:32 pm
by kevin
Make sure washer between pulley and crank is in good condition and not been crushed . Happens now and then which causes oil pump failures
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:36 pm
by 75evo
Let's put it to the test. How many fingers do you need to turn the rotating assembly? Just a push of a single finger? On my 12V I rebuilt 10 years ago, I needed 3 fingers to start rotating it, then just a finger would keep it rotating. My mechanic said the crank or the caps/block not 100% true, but shouldn't be a real issue. He was right, the engine is running strong 10 years later.
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:35 am
by Jim K
Come on you guys, you're not
seriously measuring with fingers!
A newly rebuilt block with no heads, spark plugs or cams, should turn with 5Nm max (4cyl) and 6-7Nm max (6cyl). This is not the breakaway torque, but the constant/even turning effort. Note that on the V6 you have torque variations every 60* while turning, but the max values must not be exceeded. If you need more effort, maybe your crank is not straight, or the block, or you have expander rings or wrong clearances....
jim K.
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:01 pm
by AlanV6
Well mine spins from standstill with 10nm (breakaway torque?) then ofcourse it goes easier. Some say that this should be measured without piston rings or even piston and conrods???
I think it's ok.
Cams are in:
I spinned the oil pump with a drill to get some oil into all channels
cam sprockets on
belt (ofcourse i have to time everything with dial gauge)
oil temp. and pressure sensors
Re: My engine 3.0 V6 24V
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:59 pm
by 75evo
Breakaway torque takes about 3 fingers, but to keep it spinning, for my engine, almost no effort at all, definitely at or below 10nm.
I'm going to throw out the mechanical waterpump. My 164 Super 24V's pump is on the way out, only 10K miles. That's it! What a POS! The labor alone is a PITA. With an electric pump I can place it in a way where it doesn't take more than 1 hr to replace and don't have to disturb any belts.
Your build looks awesome! Hope you go ITB soon