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Latest 425 Horsepower NA Creation!
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:48 am
by junglejustice
Just thought that I would share on my latest adventure down here in South Africa with Glenwood Motors and Dawie and my joint-efforts!
I brought down the forged steel connecting rods (went with Don Pauter's pieces for this build...) and the forged aluminum alloy pistons (from Ross Racing again) and Dawie went dry-sump, solid lifters, BIG injectors, 3.7 litre 24 valve - the whole 9 yards.
Motor is going down to a very lucky gentleman in Australia for his GTV6.
Started it last night - sounds awesome - will be dyno running today!
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:24 am
by Jose_76
Geez!! I think I've fallen in love!!

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:37 am
by rz
i WANT it!!!
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:17 am
by fedezyl
Beautiful!!! just gorgeous!!
Just curious to know for how long I have to save money to get one of these, how much did it cost? engine included??
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:41 am
by rz
please let us know the price!i might considder to sell the superchargerkit from greg to purchase this piece of art!!
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:23 am
by Zamani
It won't be cheap. It's very high quality and very well though out stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if it is around US$15-20K.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:36 am
by Mats
What's the thought behind that rod design? Looks weird in every aspect of engineering...
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:43 am
by Maurizio
Very good one, mats, I didn't look that good at first, but it is exactly the opposite of what one would expect.
Ps I specially like the headers

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:04 pm
by Giulietta24vTT
The headers are beautifull, and I'm sure they're not only looking good but also helping for some release gains.
Regarding the rods, we used Pauter rods here on some crazy high rev 4 cyl engines we built, we're talking about 500-600hp of 2Ltr lancia and VW turbocharged engines , these connecting rods are of top quality and design !
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:09 pm
by Mats
I'm sure they are sturdy but it still feels "wrong".
I'm pretty sure you could get the same streght and stiffnes with a ligther rod utilizing a H or I beam design.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:08 pm
by Zamani
The reason why it "feels" wrong is probably because Pauter maybe one of the very few using this design.
Eagle, Crower, Carillo, Arrow, etc usually use I or H...mostly H I think for aftermarket forged rods.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:56 pm
by Mericet
I saw this engine during the build up. It is a beauty! If Dawie and John was not looking so closely I might just have snuck it into my rental car.
John, it was great to meet you and Dawie. Pity my trip was not later, I would have loved to hear that monster being fired up.
Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:40 pm
by Maurizio
I'm pretty sure you could get the same strength and stiffness with a lighter rod utilizing a H or I beam design.
I'll back you up

, the material is not efficient used. Could be designed lighter and still strong and stiff enough. A H-beam would be the better use of material, lot of material in the outer sides.
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:31 am
by rz
i heard that the carillo rods are not that fantastic.
if one makes an engine with that power,you'll have to use the best available!
i think pauter knows his job!they are prob much more expensive but much better!!
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:18 am
by Mats
Sweet, rumour gossip about "carillo rods are not that fantastic".
How about Arrow rods then, they deliver to some F1 teams as I understand it. Or what about all the other rod manufacturers? They must be really stoked by this outside-of-the-box-thinking by Pauter...

It's basic engineering, do some cross section stiffness calculations and you will see what I mean, twist should be worse too.
Anyway, it will probably be a great engine and nowhere near the rods limit anyway so I'll shut up now.