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Clutch issue on 75 2,0 TS

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:43 am
by 75 GTA
Something strange has happened.

I bought a clutch disc for my TS and when I took the old one out the sizes didn´t match at all!!!

The new one has 215mm and the one I took out was 200mm :shock:

How can this things happen?!

I had to refurbish the old one with new Ferodo rings and put it back in place (works perfect though).

Now what am I supposed to do with the 215mm one? Is it the wrong one or is the 200mm not from that GB in the first place?!

I´m quite confused and I´m not sure if I can take the 200mm back to the store.

What size are yours? (75 Ts guys especially)

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:01 am
by Micke
It should be 215 mm

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:38 am
by 75 GTA
That´s what I thought :?

Now what happened here?!

Is the gear box from another type of engine? (IE 1600/1800/2500/3000 ?!)

I just hope the LSD diff is there :(

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:38 am
by 75 GTA
How can I see where this gear box is from?

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:11 pm
by sira
200 mm clutch was on 1.6 gearbox, all other models has 215 clutch, I have 200 cm clutch, and it's imposible to find.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:53 pm
by 75 GTA
...so is it possible that the previous owner put a 1,6 gearbox with the 2,0 LSD ?

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:53 am
by Micke
Or he used a 1.6 clutch with a 2.0 box.

What I'd do for an economy flex track solution is:
Lighten the 1.6 flywheel (it has lower inertia than the 2.0)
Use a sintered clutch disk. This should be OK for 2.0 engines.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:04 am
by 75 GTA
I just talked to the previous owner. :x

The thing is that he throwed the complete set (Rear flywheel, clutch disc and actuator) from a 1600 into the TS Gear Box.

He thougth it would make it rev easier since de flywheel is smaller. :roll:

The only thing that got faster was the clutch disc wearing process :evil:

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:07 pm
by Micke
He's RIGHT. Read my prev post.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:52 pm
by 75 GTA
He would be RIGHT if the car wasn´t ment to be raced as he is...

I´m quite sure this could work fine on a road going car but this is not the case.

Maybe I should go for a swap between my two 75 and swap the stock GB into the race car...

But first...let´s see if it holds the pressure on track.

PS:

Thanks Micke :D
But what is a sintered disk?

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:10 pm
by Zamani
I have a 4-puck clutch meant for the V6 gearbox in case you are interested. It is still sprung so it should be drivable even on the street.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:21 pm
by 75 GTA
Hi there Austin Pow...argh Zamani :D

I would be very interested but it would cost a fortune to ship it here in Europe :evil:

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:37 pm
by Zamani
Does it? I can ship via regular mail and it shouldn't cost much.

Remember Euro pwnzzzz the US dollar these days.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:49 pm
by Micke
Something like this:
http://www.performatek.com/Alfa/Drive%2 ... rung02.jpg

They should be available locally or a racing shop can make it from the 1.6 disk.

I have a 2.0 group N pressure plate from Sachs. Maybe it is available for the 1.6 as well.

BTW, shipping isn't that bad as long as you use a slooooow one. It takes ages to get the stuff over alaska and siberia but the price is right.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:13 am
by 75 GTA
Oh I see!

I will ask my local Alfa racing shop for the complete set (Gr. N sounds pretty reasonable for me).