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Sporttunergtv6 · Post by **Sporttunergtv6** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:14 pm

The cv boots on my car disintegrated last year and I have not replaced them yet. Since i have driven the car with less and less grease in the joints I would like to replace them all together. Does anyone know if there are substitutes from other cars that fit or if there are still lobro alfa units hanging around somewhere. I think that the e30 has the same six bolt cv join pattern, but I am not sure if it is the same thickness or spline pattern. Advice, web addresses, and parts for sale are all welcomed here.
Vittorio

MR2 Zig · Post by **MR2 Zig** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:28 pm

Geeze, no replies yet?! I just got done with the boots on mine....boy what a pain in the a_ _!

some numbers for ya; LOBRO 44/82 W Germany this on one halfshaft
LOBRO 21/82 W Germany this on the other one
both ends marked the same on the respective shaft.

hth,
Scott

x-rad · Post by **x-rad** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:55 pm

Check with Louie at 'DeNoya trading post' or Dean at 'Trail Auto'...they usually have some laying around

Bought a nice used set from Louie last yaer for about ?60$....

Sporttunergtv6 · Post by **Sporttunergtv6** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:14 pm

i have used ones around... and I am sure that i could just regrease the ones on the car, but if you have any leads into gkn or lobro please suggest away. i think i remember someone saying that they used cv's for a 930 porsche and they were the exact same. could never find that post again.
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Sporttunergtv6 · Post by **Sporttunergtv6** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:28 pm

well i have found porsche 930cv joints have the same 28 splines, bolt pattern, m10 bolt size, and diameter of 108mm. i even found high performance axles and chromoly 930 cv joints. now i need to measure the alfa shaft to compare length and find the appropriate end caps.
look for yourself at:
http://www.dansperformanceparts.com/bug ... %20IRS.htm
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Sporttunergtv6 · Post by **Sporttunergtv6** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:39 pm

hmm... it seems as if the 930 cv is 32mm in length and you would have to use the 930 flange.
could get expensive if you start going crazy with chromoly doohickies.
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Sporttunergtv6 · Post by **Sporttunergtv6** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:02 pm

hmm or is it 40mm?
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Sporttunergtv6 · Post by **Sporttunergtv6** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:17 pm

well the alfa cv joint is the same 40mm in length by 108 mm in diameter with the same 7/8 inch diameter balls as the porsche 930. the gtv6 axle length is 15 and 1/8 inchs. does anyone know the lengths of the axle flanges/spacers for the gtv6 and the the (smaller) milano verde? it jsut might be possible to use a new longer axle and omit those flanges.
in summary, answering my own posts:
$150 for the chromoly axle pair
+336=$84 per high performance empi 930 108mm cv joint kit x 4
$486 for new no fuss no muss rear drive axles
OR
just $336 using the old alfa half shafts
considering that IAP sold 'refurbished' axles with cv's for 300 a pair this isnt that bad.
vittorio

MtnStephen · Post by **MtnStephen** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:35 pm

Has anybody tried these? Possibly dumb questions, but are the axle diameter and the bolt circle diameter correct? Everything else sounds right. I'll do some measureing when I get home. I've got some of the smaller Milano spacers, I'll measure them to answer the length question. But I think I'll just go for the joints, provided they really fit.

Sounds too good to be true!

Stephen

Alfa GTV6 NZ · Post by **Alfa GTV6 NZ** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:36 am

hi guys,

check out this post from 2005 http://alfagtv6.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t= ... 9ccb3e5707

I have now found the invoice for the porshe 911 cv joints that are a exact match.
The details were as follows for anyone that needs them.

Part Number - CV430228-40 (not sure if this means anything)
Description - 28/108X40mm Porsche 911

So that is 28 splines and is 108mm in diameter and 40mm thick.

Hope this helps anyone out there. Also the model of 911 maybe 85 or 86 onwards.

Karl

BTW. I paid NZ$160 (US$110) for one RRPNZ$280 (US$195), you have got to love trade discount!!

MtnStephen · Post by **MtnStephen** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:12 am

Thanks for the info! I'm very happy to learn about this, as all the usual sources for Alfa Parts in this part of the world told me that new CV Joints are "No longer available, anywhere." I'm not sure if I should share this info with them or not... on the one hand, it would help other Alfa owners who don't happen to look online for info, and keep the suppliers informed. On the other hand, if Alfa parts supliers can't be bothered to find out this sort of info on their own, do they really deserve the help? Perhaps we are better off not paying an extra level of markup to buy from an Alfa parts source, but I always figured part of what I was paying for in Alfa parts was salary for an expert to track down sources of otherwise hard-to-find parts. Sigh. <rant off>

Anyway, for anyone interested in the Milano flange length: (All are approximate, as best I could hold a ruler and eyeball it, and without cleaning the grunge off of the GTV-6 flanges.)

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            GTV-6                  Milano
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Axle      15.375(*) in        16.125 in
Flange    2.3  in                 1.250 in

*others have referred to these as being 15 1/8, which is probably the nominal length, and would make the numbers come closer to adding up. What really matters is probably the distance between the inner sholders. Perhaps mine are longer past the C-clip groove, without affecting the working length?

Thanks again,

Stephen

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:56 pm

NLA? Yeah right... They're just lazy and only look at part numbers.

Inside tip: http://www.gknservice.com/gkn-ids/jsp/p ... rsport.jsp

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:14 pm

Ok, did the leg work for you:

http://www.raceparts-direct.com/product ... +%26+Boots

Check out #K3018 - £62
Should be what we want, yes? Deep plunge too, lovely!

There is also #MS3N022 - more expensive at £106 and only std plunge.
And finally #K3018B which is only 32mm wide but deep plunge and same price as the first one £62.

Sporttunergtv6 · Post by **Sporttunergtv6** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:40 am

i just bought a set of 4 930 race joint on ebay for $160... i am going to reuse the half shafts and i have good cond end caps.

Keith · Post by **Keith** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:20 pm

I noticed IAP now has new joints listed in their catalog, #13748
http://www.international-auto.com/index ... id=2262121

New CV's please