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synchro and rings
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 2:59 pm
by x-rad
just picked up some spare synchros and rings from Louie McApline...
80$ for synchros from Louie at Denoya trading post and $60 for rings from IAP
He is a good source for parts.....
Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:35 pm
by sh0rtlife
so thats what second gears crunch looks like befor it goes crunch ...lol
Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:13 pm
by x-rad
three sides with very nice points...one side with minimal wear....
sliders came from a spider tranny...
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:56 am
by Bruce
Are you saying "spider" rings will fit the gtv6 (75) gearbox?
All 3 of my rings have excessive wear, almost rounded but the syncro's look OK.
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:26 pm
by MD
Hey Gino de Pasquale
- Are these parts both new?
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:36 am
by x-rad
Synchro rings and sleeves are the same for 80's spider, GTV6, Milano: synchro hubs are different (three spoke thing)
inner ring new: ~30$
outer ring (one with teeth): New 90+$, good used ~40$
If teeth really bad, check gear too!
Don't use used inner rings...
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:38 am
by x-rad
MD...U talkin to me??
outer rings used but SHARP!
Friction rings NEW
Price in above post w/pics for all four parts
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:19 am
by Bruce
Just the rings are rounded, thanks.
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:29 pm
by MD
x-rad,
Yes I am mate. Ever since I discovered your deep under cover Italian ancestry, I have been tempted to use it but hey, your secret is safe with me..
On the sane side of the fence..is it still possible to get new dog rings ?(outer rings as you call them). I thought that was impossible. Synchros you can get anywhere but I have been raiding used boxes for the dog rings bacause I have been told told that they are no longer available. Can you just clarify that please?
These things are the key component for good meshing during changes and unless the teeth are razor sharp and without any rounding, you are never going to get smooth gear changes no matter how good the the synchros are. Changing the synchros is only half the story. So these suckers are VITAL. Unless you are lucky enough to have a crash box (straight cut)...
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:33 am
by x-rad
Yeah...I'm a Siggy/Napoli combo...(a connoli with nuts!)
Don't worry MD, we have 'friends' in Auzzie land should the 'secret' get out..
To further lessen or worsen he confusion:
synchroniser ring=slider=outer ring=synchroniser engagement gear (da ting wit 33 small teef) and sometimes known as the 'dog gear'
inner ring= friction ring = nearly complete circle of metal with coarse outer surface (fits inside outer ring)
Dog ring or gear: definition of this depends on the transmission type. Generally, the Dog is mated to a driving shaft but can be a gear with side teeth... I consider it the three "toothed" part that is mated to the driving shaft (but I could be wrong),otherwise know as thr synchro hub, and this is not interchangeable with Spider model ( I bought one used and it is sized differently for the center shaft)
check this out:
http://www.centerlinealfa.com/cgi-local ... 1206364124
Before you all go out and buy these, I have never personally swithced them, but from what others have told me and what I have read, the only interchangeable parts between Spider tranny and GTV6/Milano tranny are the synchro sleeves and friction rings.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:23 pm
by MD
Atsa -a nice but you left out the best bits..
(da ting wit 33 small teef)
My question was/is, can you get these new?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:03 pm
by x-rad
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:41 pm
by MD
I see said the Blind Man...
Well done Gino. You're worth your weight in camel dung.
Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:28 pm
by x-rad
Gratzie...I think!?
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