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[cchan]

Once we get the Alfa started we will tweak the exhaust and add the flanges. What do the flex joints look like that MD is suggesting? No one else made this suggestion. What do others think about this? I had to have the Alfa towed to the exhaust shop(There and back). I want to keep the Alfa under the AA radar and not have it get blacklisted before I get it running. Want to save the towing frequency for other unforeseen situations.

Michael, we originally wanted dual exhaust and was thinking about removing the spare tire wheel well and battery well. However, we were told that we could not get 2 2.5" pipes over the dion & watts linkage since the drivers side had no clearance. Therefore, we would have to have a single pipe over the rear suspension on the passanger side and then go for dual exhaust. This did not make sense to us since it would not be dual pipes for the whole system. Is the sytem that you posted a picture of have 2 pipes over the dion?

[Mats]

I wouldn't worry too much about the clearence between the caliper and the exhaust since it sounds as if this car will hardly see any track events. The pads should last you a long time.

On all my cars the exhaust gets hot when I drive it , this is a problem if it's as close to the caliper as the pics indicate. I have more clearance then that on my 75t with a 3" pipe moving past so it can be done.

[cchan]

Hi Matts,

I think this must be another difference between the Milano and the GTV6. I could not use the RS swaybar that fits the Milano for the GTV6 since it needed to be repositioned. We first thought we could use the rear two holes and just drill two new holes to the rear of the existing. It then turned out that this was incorrect. We needed to drill 4 new holes. We then went with the shankle bar instead.

Therefore, I think that spacing difference make the Milano have more room in the rear to fit a larger exhaust. Did you have a GTV6 that this is done on??

[Mats]

Nope, but on my -77 GTV4 it looks exactly the same. Where did you drill the new holes, I didn't quite follow you there?

[x-rad]

Nice welds and it looksgreat...I can understand the cats, but I would not have used the center muffler/resonator. Was there a reason you kept this?

[cchan]

Hi Matts, The RS Rear swaybar that I purchased from JJ was not a direct bolt in. RS assumed that the milano & gtv6 bar are the same. This might be true but in the GTV6 you need to drill 4 new holes to install it. We returned this RS swaybar & went with the shankle since we did not want to drill new holes. Therefore the wheelbase is different for a Milano & GTV6. My understanding is the Milano is longer & therefore this maybe the reason why you could go with the 3 inch exhaust in your 75 & not in the 6.

[cchan]

Hi Xrad, we did not want the Alfa to be too much louder than a stock Alfa. The stock set up was copied since we could not design a true dual exhaust system. We just went went with a larger diameter pipes for improved performance but felt that just cats & one rear muffler would be too loud. We still need to pass CA visual & smog.

[MR2 Zig]

Speaking of the smog check....please let us know what happens.
I for one would like to put on one of Greg's superchargers and aftermarket injection, so your input would be appritiated.

Thanks,
Scott

[cchan]

Hi MR2 Zig,

When we first started this project we were thinking of going with Greg's supercharger since it appeared to give us the most hp for the $. However, I was told in this BB that Greg's supercharger kit would not pass the inspection part of smog. Therefore, I personally think that if my coversation passes smog, it will have no correlation to Greg's supercharger passing smog since he personally posted that it would not pass the visual inspection. The 3.0l 24V conversation looks stock except for the removing of the AFM and the stock filter. Hopefully, this will pass the visual inspection.

[MR2 Zig]

Well then let us know how the injection system does (which system, etc),

Now i remember that whole discussion about the supercharger....

Scott

[cchan]

yeah,

I think I saw a thread where Greg's supercharger has 300hp at the crank on a stock engine. Definately a good option to the 24V if you are not in CA.

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[Michael]

I believe you can remove Greg's supercharger in a couple of hours. Not too bad considering you just have to do smog every 2 years

I'd ensure that big brother does not discover that a later model engine has been fitted - this would mean that the car will have to conform to emission standards for the engine ('95 probably).

Cheers,

[MR2 Zig]

Michael, you are absolutly right about the year of engine ... the people's republic of california (as some call it) wants to use the most recent smog standards that they can. They will go by the most recent year of the engine (as you said) or the chassis.

The above being said, the average smog mechanic won't bother to check that far and his reference material isn't all that thorough....the referee is a different critter alltogether.

scott

[Michael]

Yes, my uncle stuck a '87 Porsche 944S engine in a '80 924 Turbo and the smog mechanics have never noticed that (a) the turbo is missing (b) the fuel injection is strangely Motronic (EFI) instead of L-Jetronic (Mechanical) and (c) the engine has 16 valves and dual cams rather than 8 valves and a single cam Now this is amazing since each time he has had it tested, it has had a 'thorough' visual inspection.

An Alfa is sufficiently arcane that they will never be able to tell the differences. If they do notice, I'd suggest explaining that the twin cam heads have been installed but that the block is still the same ... so in theory, its still the same engine... which is kinda true since the block is essentially the same as in the GTV6 ... Might work, of course, the engine number would be different than the number on the record for the car.

Smog rules are different in Washington - they run the cars on a dyno but there is no visual inspection. Oh, and the tests only cost $15 (with one free retest).

[Mats]

L-Jet? You mean K-jet? L-Jet is electrical (but analog).