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[FLETCH]

Hey guy's,
just been looking at info on this car and i am so stoked to read that it looks like making it into production finally.what do you all think about it,me as i said to my wife when showing her a pic of it,i think that it is pure SEX on wheels.one of the most beautiful cars i have seen.

[Barry]

Real nice.....and real nice price ....agree F,it does something to one..

[Zamani]

The car looks nice, but the engine bay doesn't look as nice. The new engine has more substance (VVT and all). I mean the Alfa V6 was a good engine, but in 2006, it was kind of past its sell by date. But at least it looked fantastic in the engine bay. The new engines just look wrong. At least put some effort into sprucing up the engine bay!! Seriously, they saved development money on the engine, now hire somebody to make it look nice!!

[Greg Gordon]

I don't know what to think. On one hand it's a beauty, however I don't think the world needs another $100,000+ sports car. What I would really like to see is something that can kick 350Z, RX8 and even STI and EVO VIII butt for just a little more money, and have a back seat.

That may sound like a tall order, but that's exactly where the GTV6 was in the marketplace in 1982. It could outperform the 924/924 Turbo, 280ZX, RX7, etc, for just a little more money. It was priced between a Z28 and a Corvette, which would be about 40K in today's cash.

[Daniel]

I agree on all points here.
The new motor looks exactly what it is - universal (and therefore boreng), but the car looks horn.
Price it up to compare to the 350Z and RX-8 but outperform both and I think I'd need to have one (don't want much, do I ?? )
But, bang for your buck, I think I'll stick with my old GTV with 3.0 24v.

[Mats]

So WHY is it a fucking convertible???

Somebody must be joking, please tell me it's a reshelled Z3 or something... eeew!

[Zamani]

You mean why call it a competizione and making it a cabrio at the same time?

[Mezevenf]

It's both?

There are 2 convertable pics, 2 coupe pics. I thought they were planning on both?

[ALFA GTV6 GP]

Some people are never happy............

The name ‘Competizione’ is a tribute to the 6C 2500 Competizione, the sports coupe driven by Fangio and Zanardi in the celebrated Mille Miglia race in 1950.
Thus, ‘8c Competizione’ is no mere fancy name, rather it is a reference to the brand’s long-standing involvement in sports.

John

[Barry]

" , and have a back seat." Greg,you horny little bugger...


As far as I know,the 8c is being launched with the v8 Maserati engine
It will also have the std 3.2 as a later option..am I correct here?

Mats,its fecking,not with a u....

[FLETCH]

Quote from a site i just found
(The 8C is powered by a Ferrari-developed Maserati 4.2-litre V8 with a volumetric compressor producing some 420bhp, which it directs to the rear wheels via a six speed manual transmission. In theory, this gives the Alfa concept a top speed of 180mph and a 0-60mph sprint in under five seconds. With dual wishbones at either end, the 8C should also be capable of typical Alfa handling; entertaining, involving and balanced. )

have a look at some of these links
:
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/03/06/alfa ... roduction/

http://www.channel4.com/4car/feature/co ... -2459.html

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/03/06/ ... -be-built/

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/8c-competizione/

http://www.eurocarblog.com/post/262/alf ... mpetizione


personally i think it is about bloody time,Alfa to start building some real performance beasts,when the prototype came to the Sydney motor show i remember the speach the Alfa guy gave ,he told us that this is Alfa's way of showing that they are serious about going back to their roots and again hope to become to be the marque that they once were,maybe even become one of the top for sports and supercars.
something to that effect anyway,i remember comming home feeling really positive about ALFA again.
i have also heard that the new BRERA will possibly come with a GTA tag being a 4wd with maybe the masser/ferrari/alfa motor aswell?
a lot cheaper than one of these but still way out of my price range,mmm.

BRERA GTA
http://www.italiaspeed.com/2005/cars/al ... /0410.html

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/gossip/the ... 129097.php

[FLETCH]

It's both?

There are 2 convertable pics, 2 coupe pics. I thought they were planning on both?

I believe there will be 500 convertables and 500 hard tops built,all left hand drive though,
i just hope a few make it to oz

[Mats]

The two pics above with roof is the computer renderings that first hit the internet and thus the car has always had a roof in my mind, now they made it into a convertible which is always a poseur car IMO.
Convertibles are all about showing off and picking up chicks, and really, what kind of girls do you get if they only look at you if you're in a nice car..?

Wind blowing in your hair?
Anybody that have driven a convertible anywhere near highway speeds knows this is not very pleasant at all.

[Jim K]

Wind blowing in your hair?? Mats my boy, by the time you get enough money to get one of them things, you ain't got no hair to worry about!
As for chicks falling for these cars, maybe they believe the part about them being an extension of our broomstick,hahah!
Me the traitor, I'd settle for the 130 (its a...BMW) with a 3liter 258hp engine and 100% road car! Here I am working to get maybe 250-260 out of our 3liter and these mothers have it for everyday use! And speak of chassis stiffness...the world's automotive press says you can slap 4 slicks on it and go racing! And all for 48k Euros here. An auto journalist friend here who has a 75 3liter and races a 2liter 105 Bertone in historics, had it for a couple of days test drive and the guy is still mumbling! And all for 48k Euros!
You want wet tech dreams? read this: http://www.mwerks.com/artman/publish/fe ... _960.shtml
Jim K.

[Mats]

Hey, I was just a bit proactive and killed the "but I love the wind blowing in my hair" argument I always hear for convertible lovers.

I park next to a 1-series everyday and the more I see of it the uglier it becomes.

"No conventional gasket is used; instead, a liquid sealant is injected under high pressure into a groove on the contact surface between the bedplate and the crankcase. "

A yes, the BMW equivalent of the ever-leaking cigarette seals...

"Despite its many advantages, it [Magnesium] poses numerous challenges .One of the biggest concerns over the use of magnesium is its incompatibility with water. To avoid potential corrosion issues, the coolant jacket is contained fully within the aluminum insert cast into the crankcase."

Whatever you do, don't scratch that paint!

"As magnesium and aluminum expand and contract at similar rates to each other, but significantly different than that of steel, special bolts were also required. The bolts used to attach parts to the magnesium components are made of aluminum, further reducing the total weight of the engine."

And you think it's difficult to find a M7 nut...
The good thing is that these will be available to anyone and probably quite cheap too.

"Lightweight components find their way into the cylinder head as well. Aside from the composite construction of the engine block, the most significant reduction in weight comes from the use of hollow camshafts. Typically camshafts are cast or forged to their rough shape, then machined to their final form. For the N52 engine, BMW takes advantage of hydroforming technology to shave more than a pound out of each camshaft, a 25% reduction.

The starting point for these new cams is a steel tube, over which the individual cam lobes are installed. The parts are placed together in a forming die that accurately orients the lobes and the bearing surfaces before the tube is filled with a high-pressure burst of water. At over 58,000 psi, the pressure from the water expands the tube, forcing it together with the lobes to create the complete camshaft.

"

Now that is just showing off!